Healing Through Spirit — The Mediumship That Changes Lives | With Chrystal Rose

Healing mediums are often the unsung heroes of the spiritual world.

While evidential mediumship often takes centre stage, healing quietly changes lives behind the scenes — helping people navigate grief, emotional pain, spiritual awakening, and personal transformation.

In this episode of Soul Sync, I sit down with healing medium Chrystal Rose for a heartfelt conversation about the true purpose of mediumship, the healing power of spirit communication, and why some messages arrive not to impress us... but to transform us.

Chrystal shares her fascinating journey from discovering Tarot as a teenager, through Reiki and energy healing, to becoming a respected healing medium, teacher, author, and spiritual mentor.

Together we explore healing, intuition, trust, development, spirit communication, and why mediumship is about so much more than simply delivering evidence.

This is a conversation about service, compassion, healing, and the deeper purpose behind spiritual work.

🔊 What you'll hear

• What it really means to be a healing medium
• Why mediumship itself can be a powerful form of healing
• Chrystal's journey from Tarot cards to professional mediumship
• The role Reiki and energy healing played in her development
• Why many people struggle to trust their intuition
• Lessons learned through spiritual development and Arthur Findlay College
• The balance between evidence and healing within mediumship
• Writing, teaching, and sharing spiritual knowledge with others
• Why spirit often gives people what they need rather than what they want
• The importance of authenticity on the spiritual path

Who this episode is for

• Anyone interested in mediumship and spiritual development
• Healers, Reiki practitioners, and energy workers
• People learning to trust their intuition
• Those curious about the healing power of spirit communication
• Anyone seeking a deeper understanding of why mediumship matters

Mentions & Ideas

• Healing Mediumship
• Spiritual Healing
• Reiki
• Arthur Findlay College
• Intuition
• Tarot
• Spiritual Development
• Energy Healing
• Spirit Communication
• Personal Transformation

Gentle Note

As always, this conversation reflects personal experiences and spiritual perspectives. Take what resonates, leave what doesn't, and trust your own inner guidance.

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Transcript

Intro

Charlie Kelly Medium 0:06

Hello and welcome to the Soul Sync podcast. It's me, Psychic Medium Jason Paul, and it's as lovely as it ever is, my darlings, to have you here with me. Now, I feel that healing mediums are often the unsung heroes of spiritualism, and they often don't get the credit they deserve. Mediumship tends to get the spotlight because it's visible, it's evidential, but healing has always been a cornerstone of the movement from the very beginning. Sometimes the greatest evidence of spirit isn't necessarily a name, a day, an occupation. It's the transformative effect that healing can have on people. Healing can obviously take many forms emotional, spiritual, energetic, grief healing, and sometimes physical improvement. Many healing mediums work kind of really hard behind the scenes, helping people quite often healing mediums work quietly behind the scenes, helping people through honestly some of the most difficult periods of their life. The purpose of healing isn't necessarily to cure someone. I'm gonna say that from the very get-go, but to bring balance, peace, comfort, and alignment. So on that note, let me introduce you to a fellow listener called Crystal Rose. Now, the first thing I'll say about Crystal Rose is she made me laugh so much and we had a right good gnat. So I think in uh some ways we was almost becoming like a bit of a comedy double act on this episode. She's a healing medium and she came into this world off the back of some very uh kind of scary experiences. Uh, one of which involved her being a young lady being approached by a man in a van and literally having a spirit um intervention in that moment that um she feels um on reflection now pretty much saved her life. So that was her doorway into this. I absolutely loved the authenticity of um Crystal and it really made me feel about how much in life we kind of get lost behind uh what other people think, um, you know, and how much that actually stops us in our life living our full potential. You know, we give so much thought to, you know, what people what uh what people think about what I'm gonna do, um, you know, what I'm gonna say, etc., etc. And I know myself it's held me back so much in my life. So um Crystal's definition of healing isn't just Reiki or laying her hands on someone, so to speak. She really sees herself as a channel for healing. I've been doing so much research recently into physical mediumship and the ways of the old, and what can be done with psychic surgery um is absolutely incredible. We've actually got um a really interesting psychic surgeon coming onto the show um soon. And she sent me a video recently, and it was absolutely crazy, which led my mum to then tell me that my granddad had a really bad accident when he used to work at a printing press which damaged his back. Um actually, no, I believe it was the NHS that messed up the operation, but that to other side, um, he actually saw a psychic surgeon which really helped him at the time. So, this is my conversation with Crystal Rose.

Welcome Chrystal Rose

Charlie Kelly Medium 3:27

Crystal, welcome, welcome, welcome to the Soul Sync.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

Thank you, Jason. I'm delighted to be here.

Charlie Kelly Medium 3:36

Well, I'm delighted to have you on. Thank you. So, there's lots of questions I wanted to ask you because you very kindly filled out one of my guest forms, which I must say from the get-go, it needs to be reworked because I actually read something back and I thought, what were some of these questions on here? What was I thinking when I wrote this? But anyway, that to one side. You are a medium and you describe yourself as

What Is A Healing Medium?

Charlie Kelly Medium 4:00

the healing medium. What does healing, you know, mean to you? What does that mean to you being the healing medium?

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Do you know what, Jason? It's like you're in my head because I went and wrote that. You know, when you're doing the end of your email and you think, what shall I call it? And I think, well, that's my catchphrase. I thought, but I haven't learnt spiritual hands-on healing yet in the spiritual churches, but I've done it the other way around. I've learned all the Reiki. But it's not just the healing like that, it's you're a channel for healing when you're giving messages in a church or on a platform or on a one-to-one, because lots of the time it's what people need to hear, it's not what they want to hear necessarily. And people say, Oh, you know, will I win the lottery? And when I went up to Arthur Findlay the other week, there was a chap in the audience for one of the mediums. She was giving a tutorial and he said, 'Well, if you can get a bit of a book, how you know, you should get the whole front cover and the name and what's it?' And I thought, Oh, it doesn't you know, I thought that's like saying you should get the lottery numbers.

Charlie Kelly Medium 5:11

Well, you're being very limiting, aren't you? In uh I think that the the the truest best form of mediumship is when you know people are just giving what they're getting and not interfering with the evidence. And when I hear people say, you know, oh, well, you need to get the name right, you need to get the age, you need to get the occupation, you need to get where you know they live. You know, it's almost like the poor spirit. Well, you know, you're giving them almost like a set of criterion questions they have to answer before the connection comes in. Please do go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

I've got a little story about that. I went to see Greg Smith on a one-to-one quite a long time ago, and I'd had a couple of messages. It was not long after my dad passed. Well, I don't know, it might have been a lot of years anyway. I hadn't heard from him a lot, and he was giving vague messages, and he's one of my guides, a bit like your granddad is. And I said that I was talking to him, as you do. I said, Dad, you've got to come through with a name and a date, you know, your date of birth. I just said, just say May, you know, just say when you were born. So I went, it was my turn to go in and see Greg. I sat down, he got a couple of age cards out, and he says, I've got a fella here, and he's shouting Maine.

Charlie Kelly Medium 6:30

It's do you know what though? Some of the things that you know I I see in my own development, and they they do make me laugh. And actually, my granddad very often comes through a lot in mediumship training kind of scenarios where he will teach the medium a thing or two. And there was this instance recently where there was a medium, and she kept saying, Oh, I'm getting your granddad, give you know one or two bits of good evidence,

Why Mediumship Is Really About Healing

Charlie Kelly Medium 7:00

and then she'd say, I'm losing him now. He's stepping back, he's stepping back. And then you know, she'd get him back again. And I'd think, no, and she'd say to me, He keeps walking away, he keeps walking away. I'm losing the connection. I kept thinking, No, you're getting in your head, that's not to do with my granddad. And at the end, she said to me, the funniest bit was, My granddad is now showing me in my third eye that he is a giant above me, and he's sort of looking at me and laughing at me, looking down and laughing. I said, Look, look, look, what he's doing is he's laughing with you because he's showing you that you know, he's never been stepping away in this. It's you keep dropping the connection through your head. So I want to ask, you you know, very kindly reached out to me. You listened to the show, you but you are a medium in your own right. Tell us how you came into this world. Tell us your story, Crystal.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

I think it was about things you never say. It's about 20 years ago.

Charlie Kelly Medium 7:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

And a lady came round to see about a mortgage to move us over into the house we're in now. And we didn't, I had fairies up like Mary Sicily Barker pictures in my living room. She said, Oh, you like you like these? I said, Oh yeah, you know, I like I love the Fae and all the spiritual and she started talking about spiritual things, and um, we started talking about Reiki, and then she's she taught me Reiki, and we I never got a mortgage with her, and then it just went on from there. I used to sit in circle. It was it wasn't until recently she's I bumped into her, well, recently a couple of years ago now, but as you get older, a couple of years is like yesterday, and she said, Oh, wasn't it funny when we used to sit and do those rescue circles, and none of us knew what we were doing. I was like I was hoping you'd know what you were doing, you know. But we had some experiences doing that, and that's how I started. I started off in the deep end and then just went from there, and then I started off with cards like a lot of people back when I was about 15. I think I bought some, kept going to the tarot in WH Smith, and I bought some and

Arthur Findlay College & Expectations In Mediumship

SPEAKER_00 9:15

how accurate they were. Then I threw them all away because they scared me, didn't do any for years. Who scared me with their accuracy?

Charlie Kelly Medium 9:24

Well, they they are accurate, and I've it was my granddad actually, even though I've you know said a lot on this show that he was a medium and I didn't ask him about mediumship. What I was really interested in was the tarot cards because you know I was much more interested in what my uh career cards might say, my love, you know, cards, what's in my fortunes moving forward, but I never obviously was that concerned about asking about spirits and dead people because I was much more interested in the tarot. So it was how I got into it, but I actually found at the beginning with the tarot, I would get really lost in trying to understand what the card meant, the symbology, and it took me ages to even move past feeling that I could do a reading, I could do a psychic reading, no problem. Give me the tarot cards, and I start getting lost in them. Did you find that?

SPEAKER_00 10:17

I actually had a book that was brilliant, and because I sort of skim read things, we'd talked about that earlier before we came on. I've got this talent for skim reading. I think, oh, that means this, and I'd I wouldn't read the cards as much as tune into my intuition anyway. But the cards do t tend to tell a story, even if you know what they mean or not, somehow or other. And yes, I sort of looked up and I think that goes with that one. And I do I kind of knew when I joined the navy and met my boy's dad. I knew that I would I'd join meet someone when I went away. And yes, it was funny.

Charlie Kelly Medium 11:01

Oh, very interesting. I often think they're just like a mirror reflecting back at you, the tarot. And I well, I I've noticed instances of them being very, very accurate, and I do often find that they're good at just using for yourself because you know it's it's very difficult to give oneself a your own psychic reading, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 11:27

It is because you're so biased. You are and you want and you want what do you mean, you know, even if you do angel answers or something, what do you mean yes? Don't you mean no? Oh, keep drawing one till it says what you want it to say, you know.

Charlie Kelly Medium 11:42

It is, it is. So you came into this world via Reiki, and I have had some experience. That's not strictly true. Oh, go go ahead, please correct me.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Scoot it back

The Difference Between Evidence And Healing

SPEAKER_00 12:01

when I was about five or six.

Charlie Kelly Medium 12:03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

I had an argument with my mum, and my friend used to live around at the scrapyard. We lived in a little hamlet in a pub called the Georgian Dragon, and we had a great big garden, it was lovely. And it it must have been the autumn time when the nights were drawing in, and I said, I'm off round the corner to see my friend Lisa. No, you're not, it's getting dark, blah de blah. I am. Hands on hips, you know. I'll be off. So I went off on my trike, and it must have been five and they said, Oh no, you'll get grabbed by a stranger. But it'd been about a couple of days before they'd had me running from one end of the kitchen to another because I'd been learning about stranger danger at school. And this white van pulled up as I got along the country lane, and he said, you know, he said, I'll show you mine if you show me yours. And he didn't mean tarot cards, Jason.

Charlie Kelly Medium 13:04

No, I can imagine he didn't mean tarot cards.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

I was only little, and I th the funny thing was I knew nothing about anything. I was I was about six, I think. Six or six my five or six just starting school, and I saw in my mind's eye like duct tape, and I thought he he will hurt me picking down between my legs. This was what went into my head, and I don't know how I knew that. And I mean he had butty teeth, greasy hair, he wasn't a pretty picture anyway, so the instincts would have been and I and I thought I don't trust this man. And I said, Oh no, I don't want to, thank you, you know, whatever. And off he went in his van, but he only drove up as far as the bridge and stopped round the corner. And I was looking round the corner, and with that, I started cycling back, and my brother John Paul was coming towards me, and I was crying my eyes out. I said, A stranger stopped me because I was terrified, nothing happened, but I had to sleep in my apart from that, apart from this sort of download making the danger. I could see ropes and things in the back of his car, in my mind's eye, in the back of his van.

Charlie Kelly Medium 14:22

Sorry. Oh my goodness, what a traumatic experience.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

But that was so weird. Yeah, but I didn't I thought that was psychic as I was older, but what I've realized is it was actually mediumship because you're seeing and it's a strong intuition.

Charlie Kelly Medium 14:40

Well, yes, because you wouldn't be getting that psychically, you would be picking that up mediumship because you've been dropped that in, it's not coming from within your own. You can see that's how you because it was a thought that was outside of your own. It was complete oh yeah.

Chrystal's Early Spiritual Experiences

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Yeah, that's a good way of defining it. But that was sorry, that wasn't a very cheery story. And I was trying to think of how I Well no, it it isn't a cheer cheery story, and you know, thank you for I did get some of his number plate though, and he did get locked up actually, on the back of that, because they come to Fordham School, and because I'd been doing the stranger danger thing, I described him really well, and he'd been stopping lots of other girls, and I don't know if he'd hurt anyone else, or but I slept in my brother's room for a couple of days after that with my two brothers, and I was pet I was petrified. Yeah, nothing happened. Really?

Charlie Kelly Medium 15:37

As far as you were petrified, honestly, it's a sort of I'm sitting sitting here on the edge of my seat with twists and turns. No, it's just an awful experience to have happened to you so young, and for that to have been, you know, kind of what I guess you now reflect on as being, you know, kind of.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Oh no, that wasn't the first one. I had a happier one before that. Scoot back a couple of years, I was a three or four, and my mum and my sister used to say, think of happy thoughts before you go to sleep. Same place where we lived. And I like cabbage to think of something you like. I said, Well, I like butterflies. So I'm thinking of cabbage white butterflies as a drop.

Charlie Kelly Medium 16:20

It's a good way to get you in the right vibration to feel spirit, isn't it? Think of happy thoughts, climb down into them. Oh, yes, I can really feel spirit now and moving into love. Yes, I like nice little trick. I might use that too.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

That's a good that's a good idea, actually. It's better than the stranger danger one. So as we go, as I went out into the garden the next morning. Now, this is a weird thing because I don't know my mum's 90 Christmas Day, so I will ask her, and I've asked her, and she said, Oh, yes, I remember that. But she's one of those who says, Oh, yes, you know, and you think, does she?

Charlie Kelly Medium 17:00

My now's that actually. She I I would say because she had a hearing aid towards the end, and she wasn't terribly old, she was in her late 60s. I'd say something to her, and I'd be talking along for about 10 minutes, da da da, and then she'd just respond with something totally different. And I think, if you just heard any of that, was that selective hearing? And I once remember actually telling her that, because my business is in recruiting lawyers, and it's a legal recruitment agency, and I um was telling her all about you know, lawyers, and she I once said to her, What do you actually think I do? And she said, Oh, you know, it's like the job centre, you know, for lawyers.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

I thought, like that.

Charlie Kelly Medium 17:43

So she asked, What do you think, Candace? Oh, people probably queue up and you take their C. I thought, no, it's nothing like that. So that's funny, isn't it? So, yes, you you went back to being, you know, three or four, the first experience. Yeah, I'm glad I'm keeping up.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

I just got just about went out into the garden and there were swarms, swarms of cabbage white butterflies, and it was only personal to me. Nobody knew what I'd been thinking about as I went to bed. But the whole garden, the whole beer garden, as I I thought it was just my garden, I didn't realise it was a beer garden, or you know, was swarmed with cabbage white butterflies. So that was like a magical manifestation from a four-year-old.

Discovering Tarot At Fifteen

SPEAKER_00 18:31

But I what did I don't know if anybody else saw them or not? You know, we uh and I wanted to- Maybe you maybe it was happening in your yeah, I don't know, but I definitely saw them. I did see them. And look at all the butterflies, you know, who knows?

Charlie Kelly Medium 18:49

Well, I guess you will never follow, but I guess you know what you felt and what you believe, you know.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

So I don't know, I saw them. I had I I saw them. I got no ice.

Charlie Kelly Medium 19:03

I'm not questioning whether you've done whether my mum saw them. Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

And if she did see them, she wasn't, she's not that amazed.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

You'd think she'd be amazed if there were swarms of cabbage white.

Charlie Kelly Medium 19:19

You would think so, I think it would be something that she would recall to this day. Yeah. Um, almost like a miraculous moment, a moment of uh great wonder. Like it would be, it would if I had a swarm of white butterflies out my window, it'd be a story I'd be telling for the next 10 years, Crystal. What can I say?

SPEAKER_00 19:39

What can I say? It's like having white feathers fall down everywhere, isn't it?

Charlie Kelly Medium 19:44

You know, it is. See, I'm I'm I I'm very cynical at times about signs, and I do set the benchmark quite high on a sign, but I've now become of the belief that a sign is because you can say, Oh, you know, what one person describes as an amazing sign to another person's, oh yeah, okay, uh, you saw a what number plate? Oh, that was nice.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

But oh, they're everywhere, aren't they? Number plate.

Charlie Kelly Medium 20:12

You know, now it's about how I feel. It's about how I feel.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

I need to share something with you, but I can't remember what it is. But I put it, I remember.

Charlie Kelly Medium 20:22

That's all right, we can put a commercial break in now while you find it.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

I was looking, it says tell Jason, and it's about signs. Oh, signs. I'd written it on well tell Jason about Emily Schultz episode in February. At the end, he gave a channeling, she gave a channeling about empaths being diamonds at our core. On the way home, after I put in brackets a challenging work day, flipped from your podcast to Magic Radio, and Rihanna came on going singing shine bright like a diamond. And it was just after she said we're diamonds at our core, and then I put the radio on, and I thought, you just can't make that stuff. You can't make it a lot of time.

Charlie Kelly Medium 21:14

It just happens at the time, but it's you can't make that up. That's you know, one in a bazillion million that you know, is and it's how it is. It made me laugh, it just made me laugh. Well, it's interesting you say that because the best signs I've ever had from the spirit world, they know humour is the way to grab my attention, and there's been a couple in, and I won't say because if I say it's not even relevant because it, you know, the context of it and whatever, but it really made me laugh. And I thought, do you know what? I'm looking back at my life, and I, you know, up until a certain point in my life, I would think, hmm, you know, it's all just what happens is what happens. Then I'd maybe believe.

When The Cards Became Too Accurate

Charlie Kelly Medium 22:00

We had a bit of a path. Then I almost had this kind of light bulb moment in my mind where suddenly it was like an epiphany where I thought, oh my goodness, I can see the weaves of coincidences, particularly involving my granddad. You know, I'm seeing a lot of coincidences involving him. So much so that I've now obviously accepted that he's a guide. I haven't accepted him easily as a guide, unfortunately. It's been a very hard process.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

So he's probably helped me, and I'd go, Oh, well, he's the thing is he's a different generation. He might be a little bit difficult.

Charlie Kelly Medium 22:36

I think he's a very classy generation. I think he's adding a nice level of refinement on top of my current uh personality traits, slowing me down, trying to bring me, push the brake pedal is what he's doing.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

He's a calming energy, then he's a grounding energy.

Charlie Kelly Medium 22:53

Well, he always comes through, you see, and he says, slow down, slow down. It's you know, his message. My nan used to call me a bull in the china shop. I never thought that was particularly nice, Crystal.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

Do you know? Do you know we're eternal beings though? And we forget, and we feel like we need to cram everything into this lifetime. And I'm a hundred miles an hour, but I know as I'm getting older, I'm feeling like I need to do what I want to do, yeah, and not put it off, just do whatever I want to do. Um I'm like I've always worn purple anyway, so that's not anything noob.

Charlie Kelly Medium 23:32

Well, I don't even think I think purple or whatever. Well, they do. I need to stop saying the word think. Every time I catch myself saying that words, I don't allow myself to say it at the moment. I'm on a think ban, you see, because I'm trying. Well, it is because I was speaking to Nicola Farmer, I guess, a few episodes ago. I like Nicola, very good media, very lovely lady. And I said to her, I have such an issue evidence in my medium. Should it just go straight into my mind? Um and then I try and place it, and I just need to get myself out of this habit. And she said to me, Well, I think I listened to that one.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Oh, did you I think I I remember it's hard, isn't it? Yes, I remember listening to that one. Well, she well, she made a very valid point. She said it was very good, very good advice.

Charlie Kelly Medium 24:23

It was good advice. So she banned me from well, well, I banned myself, she didn't ban me, but from the word saying, I think, and I've noticed myself, I catch myself saying it a lot, and I I think, no, I don't want to think about anything.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

I find it quite endearing because you say think with an S, and you're like unapologetically, you, and I love it. Because back in the day, news readers would speak very. My mum actually sent me to elocution lessons with a lovely lady called Mary Barbette, a family friend, and she used to have me reciting Shakespeare. I can do it, I can

Reiki, Energy Healing & Spiritual Development

SPEAKER_00 25:00

speak very nicely if I try. But it then it becomes a bit, it becomes a bit I tip my not so natural.

Charlie Kelly Medium 25:11

Not so natural. Well, you need to be you, I believe. We need to be who each of us are, and I think we spend too much time in life trying to be someone else or something that we're not or trying to fit in, you know. And I I feel that you need to be you. There is only one you.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Only one me. And only one one, yes, the real you. There was it kept coming up on Facebook voice lessons and speech, and I was and I did some of them on the free app. And then I went and did a church service, and my friend said to me, You weren't yourself tonight, because I was going, Oh, I was trying to present, you know.

Charlie Kelly Medium 25:59

And they thought all of it.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

Well, it's it. Well, you tell she was like, Who's she tonight, Matthew? I'm going to be.

Charlie Kelly Medium 26:07

You've got to be you. And even when I have started doing my recent outings on and doing more of the platform, I have just said, I am going to unapologetically, BB. I do want to broaden my vocabulary because I do feel that due to not reading as many books as I've said, I do feel my vocabulary could be better. So I want to expand my repertoire of words.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Jason, you don't need to. The only thing is when spirit comes through, you end up keep looking up words because I think, what does that mean? You find yourself saying things depending on who you if you get a guide with a really good vocabulary or an older guide like your granddad, you might end up looking words up because you're thinking, where are these things? You know.

Charlie Kelly Medium 26:55

Well, when I'm doing my medium shit, I don't even know because it's so hard to describe one's own mediumship and what is happening. But when it's happening for me, when it's happening for me, when I'm making a connection, the first thing I get is very vivid visual in the furder. I will get an image, something symbolic that I know that that's to start me off, that's to power me off. Come on, Jason, right? Go with what you're feeling in this visual. And then I don't even know how to describe it. What's coming to me a lot of the time is I'm just feeling it, knowing it. It's just subtle.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Kind of as soon as you open your so subtle, but as soon as you say it, and then if they come and tell you, there was a lady the other night, and I was giving her all I could give her was all this environmental stuff. I said, Oh, and you do, and she came and told me afterwards it's all right because this will be aired so much later, and I haven't given anything away. But they she said, I'll tell you after the service what we do. And she actually has a when people come to stay, they say, What's that bucket doing in your shower? Because they have so much water, they save some of the water in the bucket, you know. Oh my goodness. They actually really do look after the environment to a large extent, and that is beautiful.

Charlie Kelly Medium 28:24

Do you know what? I kind of thought we're having a lovely conversation. I love it. I love how what a dedicated uh listener you are, and uh the fact that you seem to know the episodes better than I do. But I'm conscious that we're on here and we're not even talking about one of your books so far.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Oh, they're they're not my books, they're Angela's. Angela? I have had a I Angela Medway Smith. Yes, she's the lead author, and we're all I've had uh three chapters in book collaborations. So I've written about the healers oracle, wrote about divine energy healing,

Learning To Trust Intuition

SPEAKER_00 29:00

a healing I channelled in 2019, just before 2020 occurred, then taught it online. Hence the need. Then I wrote about Metacrystals, which is in the second book, that's a chapter that was also in 2019. That was me upgrading my crystal healing, but Archangel Metatron's grid and cube and everything like that then came into it. And then the third chapter Angela invited me on, and I'd only done one lesson on spirit, but I'd found or a couple of lessons, I but I'd found it to become really naturally when you have a guide helping you.

Charlie Kelly Medium 29:49

Well, yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 29:52

I'd drawn a picture like a three-year-old. Sorry, I'm going all different ages tonight. Apparently, your soul's ageless, so we can, and you know, wasn't quite a matchstick face, but the it's all out of proportion and like big eyelashes, you know. That was my first one, and then by the end of it, just the end of that day, I was I'd drawn my mum, my brother, well, my sister, because that's the next next without their no, I wasn't painting, I was with a big pencil, and then I matched them with photographs afterwards. I thought, that looks like my mum. Hang about, that looks like Miranda. Oh, that looks like David. Oh, that I thought, how have I done that? And I thought I haven't. And then I went and bought loads of things, autofocus. What do they call it? With when you focus, hyper focus for about a week or two, then stopped doing it again. And then I've picked up a pencil a few years later, started doing it again, hyper focused for a while, haven't done it. Then I did orographs. I do enjoy creativity though. I very much.

Charlie Kelly Medium 31:06

You emailed me a beautiful beautiful orograph. It was one of the most beautiful things I think I'd ever seen. I'd I don't even know how you put it together.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Well, I did a quite a bad I don't know. It came to me after the drawing and I thought that doesn't quite encapsulate what I'm trying to show here. But when you can I just used Canva Elements and did it digitally.

Charlie Kelly Medium 31:35

Well I found myself mesmerized by it.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

But the thing is when you do AI, it doesn't get it. But you it when you use the elements and you say I want to put in a Phoenix or whatever or uh Angel Wings, then you can choose them and Yeah, well it was very beautiful when I was uh I was uh stood looking at it, wondering how it made me feel.

Charlie Kelly Medium 31:58

And it was very interesting. It was very, very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

Did you find parts of yourself in it? That's a but that's a Yes, I did.

Charlie Kelly Medium 32:06

Did you I do think, you know, I figured I I felt that you'd definitely encapsulated, I felt the essence and the energy and the kind of strength and determination, and I felt there was something in like kind of a salt age aspect of it. It felt like it had a lot of old energy in a very positive way. It felt very refined, if I might say so.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Yeah, you did have some rolling hills in there. I didn't feel like you're rolling hills. I feel like you're a bit of a country boy, even though you're not, you know. I feel that you'd be at home with the hills, you know. Like I know you're not you're not far from Wales, though, to be fair.

Charlie Kelly Medium 32:50

No, but actually you've you've called that very correctly because I outside this window here is just rolling hills. Oh so yeah, you've you've pretty

Reading Energy Beyond The Cards

Charlie Kelly Medium 33:00

much done my um window. What's that? Anyone would think we were psychic, Jason, wouldn't they? Anyone would, they would anyone listening to this for the first time is going to have thought, who are we talking to here, these two absolute fruit loops. But that's what we love here on the Soul Sink. We embrace that crystal and we wear it proudly, purple hair or not. So you're also a mum. I know that's been a big part of your life, and it even strikes me that the work that you do with teenagers in kind of alternative provisions, it all focuses around helping people, it feels to me.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

I like to be of service, and the thing is I get them because I was a wayward teenager, you know, they relate to me. The boys more than the girls, I think. But then I do it's funny because some are interested in the spiritual side, but then it frightens them because uh when they're sensitive themselves and they can see they know you can see through them and they can see it's difficult to be seen for a teacher.

Charlie Kelly Medium 34:21

It's an interesting well, it's interesting, isn't it? Because I used to oh, I have lots of funny thoughts, and I used to think early on in my mediumship development, you know, if I was having an issue or whatever, could someone just read that straight in my energy? And of course, well, of course you could, but it's you know, I can feel it quite often. I will even in my day job, I could just sense things in my colleagues' energy. If someone's just you know got something going on in their life, I can feel it instantly vibrationally.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

I'm I'm doing this more and more, and I can't remember where I picked up the advice for it. When I see strangers just walking past in the street looking a bit low, or you could just tell the way they're slumped, or I'm I like send them healing, send them healing. Oh, that's what I do. I feel that that's the best thing you can do. I think I might have got it off your show. I might have got it off one of your shows, actually.

Charlie Kelly Medium 35:16

Oh, you took it from me. We've been doing going round spreading love. I love it. Well, do you know what? It's been a blossom. It's honestly good to get you on to talk to you because I think you've got such a lovely energy, and I know that you know everything you do very much is in service, and you bring, you know, a lot of joy to people. And for all the people you do at your spiritualist church, which you have to remind me which one it is, because I've touched. Oh, it's haven't spiritualist church. Haven't spiritualist church. Well, we commend you, we salute you, we love you. So go on then. Leave us today on a final four for your time here on the soul sink.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

Well, my my biggest thing would be to just be kind. It's so important to be kind, you never know what's going on in people's lives. And we're all just big kids. Everyone, if when when you look and see how people are and how they're behaving, they're projecting, and this goes with working with teenagers, working with working with anyone, you know. I like that. You you don't know what's going on, and just it's really important to be kind and be kind to yourself because if you're not kind to yourself, you can't extend it to others.

Charlie Kelly Medium 36:47

And I agree. You've got to be, you've got to really stop and look at how you speak and treat yourself. You know, are you your own biggest cheerleader or you know, are you beating yourself up all the time for not doing this? And so how you speak to yourself is so, so, so important. And I'm one of the worst people in the world, I tell you that, for giving myself a hard time.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Not even that, Jason. It's your your thoughts. You know, you're saying not to think. You have to think, it will pass through it, but pass them through that gateway, you know. I just can't say the words. I just can't say it. Is it true? Is it helpful? Is it inspiring? Is it necessary? Is it kind? Think. So you have to do it with the T H, not just with an F.

Charlie Kelly Medium 37:36

Well, uh do you know what? Necessary is a very important word as well. Necessary, you know, because I've even started looking at my words, you know. I only want to say things at times that are necessary, that are meaningful, that are kind.

SPEAKER_00 37:54

But it's hard, it's hard for us though, Jason, because we just like to ourselves.

Finding Your Own Authentic Style

Charlie Kelly Medium 38:00

We do, and I but I I'm trying to be much more considered with, you know, because even on myself, I sometimes record these intros and I think, slow down, man. Slow down.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

Do you know what? I believe that you're such a kind person. You're you're lovely and you're highly intuitive. I don't feel that you I do now because inside we are all divine spirits, we're all we're all God in human form as an entirety, we're not powerless, we and we need to step into our own power and bring that kindness and that love and that world that we want to see, because we can create it. We so can. It's only when we think or we feel that we can't that we stay in muggle land, as you call it.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:03

We do stay in muggle land. We keep ourselves in muggle land. We do keep ourselves in muggle land, we are God, God is all around us, God is everything. We can access anything, anything is possible, being the limitless life, you know, the life form that we are. There is nothing holding us back except that of our minds that keep us small. You know, it's fear.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

The only thing to fear is fear itself.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:37

Yeah, some of the wisest words ever spoken.

SPEAKER_00 39:40

I wish I'd just been a little bit less fearful in life at times. And probably a little bit more, a little bit more considered.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:51

Yeah, well, I'm overtaking a roll of the dice too quickly. That's my problem. I'm trying to, again, as my grandad says, push that brake pedal. Crystal, it's been a delight. Thank you for coming on to the soul sink. Oh, I love you so much. You're wonderful you are. Oh, you so thank you, my darling. Sign up to my new monthly newsletter now where you can hear from me what I'm doing with my mediumship, meditations, uh, events, all things like that over at jasonpaulmedium.com. Sign up at the very bottom of the homepage, and I'll see you every month.